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This article aims to make a preliminary psychopathological reflection on masochistic perversion based on the ideas of Jacques Lacan and Gilles Deleuze. To do so, it takes the Lacanian assumption according to which the perverse subject seeks to interrogate and recover the portion of the subtracted jouissance to make way to a subject. Then, an attempt is made to realize this assumption by taking back two fundamental aspects of the masochistic staging described by Deleuze: fetishism and idealization. Finally, it is proposed that both mechanisms seek the production of a positive object in the masochistic staging. [ABSTRACT FROM AUTHOR]